The Working Director | Joe Luis Cedillo

I’ve just recently met Joe Luis Cedillo, briefly at an LAThtr Meetup and then again at a Hollywood Fringe Festival Town Hall. When I learned his company had a character tweeting and asks the audience to keep their cell phones on during the show, you can just imagine my glee.
All I have to say here is: Go see Dreams of a Dead City. Guaranteed to be a fascinating experience.

‘you respect the artists for going balls out after something’

1. Please give a short description of DRADC from a Director’s Perspective. What are the images or themes that drive your process? 

Filming teaser trailer

DREAMS FROM A DEAD CITY ( teaser http://youtu.be/qLDehpa0fuk) is a theatrical exploration drawing from Sci-Fi, our increased dependence on technology, and what happens when you ask the audience to leave their cell phones on when they enter the theater.  Three women (Melissa Eslava, Maureen Chesus, Caitlin Gallogly) try to escape a room without windows and one door with radio wave transmissions (Sarah Vannest) drifting through while three men (Adam Briggs, Caleb Hunt, Hollie Peek III) work on a smart phone app that could have dire consequences.  All the while Tech Guru/CEO Mr. I (Masha Sapron) watches over it all.  At one level we’re telling a story drawing dramatic tension and narrative thrust from the bounce between two plot lines and playing with the very real presence of cellphones and how to use that technology to create an interactive audience experience.
One of the most interesting perspectives for me is viewing technology as organic with its own chain of evolution and even revolution.  Our discussions tend to revolve around tech capabilities and limitations, but we also come back to a very human place.  We continue to find ourselves asking very basic questions about who these characters are and their relationships with each other.  I tend to really vibe off of my collaborators and so much of the work is what we find in the room.  Discoveries we’ve made include using image of multi-armed Kali for stylized movement, old-tyme radio shows with flourishes of vaudeville/spirit leader techniques, and the many uses for what you can do with a cell phone.


2. How did you prepare for directing an interactive piece versus other pieces, and a new work that you also co-wrote?  

Theatre for me is exploring a live event that takes place in time and space.  I’m always drawn to meta-theatricality to evoke tragedy, mystery, and ritual.  I’ve explored doing things like breaking the fourth wall, breaking the psychic space between actor and audience, and finding ways to use the full breadth of a theatrical space as opposed to camping out on the stage in a set.  DREAMS evolved from this place but once me and Greg decided that we were going to use the audience’s smart phones then a whole set of challenges appeared.

I’m tech savvy in some ways (Digital Video, Facebook, YouTube), but have luddite tendencies and had to quickly get up to speed about smart phone capabilities and social media like Twitter and Four Square.  What helped immensely was attending a workshop with Patron Technology hosted by the LA Stage Alliance.  It was a great lecture that gave me ideas to take back to Greg and became our strategy for how we’d use technology as the art.  It also helped to have the support of a great creative team.  Maureen took on getting to know Twitter, Alex continued finding ways to express the production in our design including using a QR code for our postcard, and all of us sharing links to news about technology, ideas/suggestions about the play became for me this dramaturgical conversation that gave me confidence and inspired ideas about the world of the production.  My strength as a director for this production came from my creative team.

Fringe means performing in the simplest way possible, but we’re using the audience’s smart phones to enhance our production.  We currently have an ongoing Twitter campaign on our “companystrange” account with our character MR. I sending out Tweets meaning our show has already begun, including an inter-Tweet interview with Cindy Marie as our fictional character.  We’re discussing having characters tweet during the performance, having videos the audience can play off their phones during the performance, and of course using cell phones with the original intent they were designed for.  We took 

staging rehearsal

the thing I was weakest at and made it an asset for our show.

Getting back to the live event, I’ve given the note before that whatever may happen to “do our show.”  But with all of the above, we’re actually building in a range of larger variables–will the audience have enough smart phones?  How long does it take for their phone to ring?  How to negotiate the delay of speaking and it coming out of the handset?  What happens if someone in the audience gets a call and what should we do since we told them to leave them on in the first place?  The audience won’t be on stage but we’re hoping to engage them in a way they’ve never been asked to participate before.  I’m working to have guests come into our rehearsals for us to “play” with, but there is still a huge difference from an audience of one to a late-night Fringe audience of many.  I’ve never done nor directed Improv and I’m excited and honestly don’t fully know what will happen come show time.

This is my first time co-writing a play with my long-time collaborator Greg Machlin.  We balance each other out as writers–I come from a poetry/Teatro/Site-Specific background and he’s genre-bending/Sci-Fi & Fantasy/strong sense of narrative and plotting.  Our common ground is being theatrically adventurous, socially-conscious, production history as multi-hyphenated artists, and challenging ourselves in pushing our respective artistic envelopes. Our process started with very early conversations about Film Noir, Lovecraft’s Necronomicon, Blade Runner, insect evolution, iPhone apps, our capacity to contextualize Genocide, and what happens if our dreams are separated from us (notes directly from my writing journal).  We were still in the discussion phase when we submitted and got accepted into Fringe–the first thing we actually jotted down was our show description and this great tag line “For heaven’s sake, don’t turn off your cell phones.”  It wasn’t too much later that me and Greg found ourselves in a booth at Mel’s Diner on Ventura creating a rough 17 page script that captured our creative chaos.  We continued to develop the script checking in with Maureen Chesus and Alex Scott, acting as dramaturgs and sounding boards.  This culminated in a reading of our first draft at the NoHo Diner with close friends.  It is interesting to look from our current rehearsal draft (version 4) and find the threads of those very early ideas.  What has remained constant is that our dramatic question dealt with the relationship of humanity to technology. 

Wrapping trailer shoot

 

 


I’ve always enjoyed good relationships with writers I’ve worked with and run a very active room.  I enjoy the conversations, discoveries, and happy accidents and try to find a way to elicit, hone, and encourage that kind of energy.  There’s been a number of things from lines, moments, and actor conversations that have become the script because of mine and Greg’s dynamic and our being open to the best idea in the room.


3.  What was the biggest challenge in directing this piece and how will you overcome it (if you think you will)? 

The biggest challenge in directing this play was at the start in terms of the actors being able to come to the piece and bigger ramifications for what that means for our audience.  There had been a number of comments of finally getting it as we put it up on its feet and they got to feel out how the story played in time and space.

We’re shooting for our play to live in a 45 to 50 minute place and some of the language and moments are fairly dense.  From the start one of the notes that kept coming back to me was one of clarity.  It’s not too uncommon a note for my work and its always difficult because I desire to live in a poetic space and hope an audience can experience discovery and revelation but not exclusion.  I want that open text play of language that you create with poetry.  A great place my fellow collaborators help me is in creating hand holds for others and I need folks who can give me good feedback and are not afraid to challenge me, because I sometimes get stuck in my artistic stubbornness.

I really bit on to that Anne Bogart idea of non-clarity she articulates in her book The Director Prepares, but that impulse is countered by my belief that a playwright is a master thief who desires to be caught in the end.

There is very much a night and day quality from where our script started and where it is now.  But I don’t believe any of it is a compromised vision, cause me and Greg didn’t back down about things we wanted the script to be.  I feel it best represents us as writers and as Company of Strangers.

As with any work I’m sure some won’t get it.  But I remember this great thing Rinde Eckert said about audiences saying they didn’t get it and didn’t understand it when they really were saying they didn’t like it.  No matter what you do there will be both and one of the things I love about Theatre is when you love or hate a production but in the end you respect the artists for going balls out after something and not shooting for a middle.

DREAMS FROM A DEAD CITY is definitely not shooting for the middle.  I’ll be there every night to greet you at the end of either love or hate each night.


4. What is the biggest challenge to directors in Los Angeles? How have you found your way here and where do you hope to go? 

The biggest challenge for me personally was support artistically and financially.  I never thought I’d get a job working at a theater after Iowa, but coming home to Los Angeles I hoped to get a job that supported my living so I could live my life doing Theatre during my free time.  I’ve applied from everything from office worker, clerk, the long ass holiday line at Target, security, even book store gigs again.  The horror stories of slashing in the academic world (check out the letter from Tom Lutz stepping down from the UCR chair on Facebook) was happening before I came out and although I had hope, I’m starting to lose faith that the way we conceive of education and Arts in California is going to really shift and affect us for years to come if something doesn’t happen now.
Not being able to find work since last August was a huge hit to my sense of self and identity. What has been really positive for me has been my relationship to Theatre and to my friend Greg, collaborators I’ve worked with, and new found friends in the community.  I’m still working on an article for HowlRound that allowed me to get a sense of the breadth of the community.  I also got the opportunity to sound design for Theatre Unleashed’s JULIUS CAESAR that lead them to ask me to join them as an Artist-in-Residence which I gratefully accepted.  There is nothing that gives me more confidence than when others believe in me and trust in the work we do together.
Sometimes in LA you feel this great vacuum for Theatre artists.  In general, we don’t have many opportunities to see the community all in one place nor the fellowships or granting opportunities to support us as artists.  Theatre for me is still very much something you always get better at through doing, one-on-one mentoring, having a sense of community of peers to have conversations with and critique.  Some of this always comes back to finding your own tribe, but a little help with the matchmaking at a bigger level would be ridiculously helpful.  Wordspace and ALAP hosting exchanges and Theatre Meet Ups via the LA Stage Alliance are definitely steps in the right direction.  Part of me feels bad to kvetch, but also realize that’s a cultural thing in me to suffer in silence and I hope when I find the way(s) I can help change this I can step up and make a difference.
Working with Greg in LA is like a continuation of all the great conversations and dialogues we had back in grad school and was the most immediate way for me to work myself out of my funk–yes I’m that kind of depressed artist from time-to-time.  I’m happy to start to formalize our collaboration by forming Company of Strangers, which is starting out humbly but we’ve continued to ride this synergy from a reading, to a workshop production, to this our inaugural production for Fringe–a great stage to be making our debut.
I’m still unemployed and impoverished financially, but feel wealthy artistically.

Hope to see all of you in the theater.

 

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  1. GM says:

    I’m biased, obviously, but this is a great interview. Come see “Dreams from a Dead City”!

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